Windows XP faxing

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Is it possible to fax using the XP utility if you have dsl internet
connection?
 
On Aug 2, 12:02 pm, "rc" wrote:
> Is it possible to fax using the XP utility if you have dsl internet
> connection?

The answer to your question is yes - it is possible to use the XP fax
utility with a DSL connection.

However, you may need additional equipment/services from your DSL
provider. I would bet they have had this question before.

You may already have what you need from your provider and not even
know it (that would be a switch!).

There are Internet sites to at least send free faxes with some
restrictions which may not bother you (like their ad on the cover page,
3 page maximum twice a day, etc.). No receiving though. Pay for more
sending options.

You can also pay for an Internet service for a separate telephone
number that you can use for sending and receiving, get incoming faxes
emailed to you, etc.

It was said once that fax over DSL = email.
 
rc wrote:
> Is it possible to fax using the XP utility if you have dsl internet
> connection?

Yes, but through a regular modem, not the DSL.. i.e., you plug the
phone-modem into a filter and then into the wall jack.

If you wanted to fax through your DSL connection, you'd have to email
the fax to a company that then faxes the data for you. There might also
be a browser interface that will let you beowse your hd for the images
you want them to fax for you.

--
Joe =o)
 
thanks all.
"Elmo" wrote in message
news:OAza%23%234EKHA.4004@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> rc wrote:
>> Is it possible to fax using the XP utility if you have dsl internet
>> connection?
>
> Yes, but through a regular modem, not the DSL.. i.e., you plug the
> phone-modem into a filter and then into the wall jack.
>
> If you wanted to fax through your DSL connection, you'd have to email
> the fax to a company that then faxes the data for you. There might also
> be a browser interface that will let you beowse your hd for the images
> you want them to fax for you.
>
> --
> Joe =o)
 
"rc" wrote in message
news:OPX9jq4EKHA.1488@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Is it possible to fax using the XP utility if you have dsl internet
> connection?
>
Yes, assuming you have a telephone line plugged into the computer along with
the DSL line.
 
On Sun, 2 Aug 2009 12:02:30 -0400, "rc" wrote:

> Is it possible to fax using the XP utility if you have dsl internet
> connection?


No.

You can do one of three things:

1. Buy and install a fax modem and connect it to the dial-up telephone
service. You can then fax over it.

2. Use internet-based fax service. Essentially that means you don't
send the fax yourself, but give it to the internet service to send for
you.

3. Buy an inexpensive stand-alone fax machine. This is my personal
preference. I bought my machine several years ago for $20 US.

--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
Please Reply to the Newsgroup
 
most mother boards
have a built in fax
modem.

there will be a
phone jack on
the backside of
the computer.

if you have one then
plug in the dsl "filtered
line" into your the
motherboards phone
jack and

fax, fax away....!


--

db·´¯`·...¸>
DatabaseBen, Retired Professional
- Systems Analyst
- Database Developer
- Accountancy
- Veteran of the Armed Forces
- Microsoft Partner
- @hotmail.com
~~~~~~~~~~"share the nirvana" - dbZen

>
>

"rc" wrote in message news:OPX9jq4EKHA.1488@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Is it possible to fax using the XP utility if you have dsl internet connection?
>
 
option 4:

use the built in
fax modem.

--

db·´¯`·...¸>
DatabaseBen, Retired Professional
- Systems Analyst
- Database Developer
- Accountancy
- Veteran of the Armed Forces
- Microsoft Partner
- @hotmail.com
~~~~~~~~~~"share the nirvana" - dbZen

>
>

"Ken Blake, MVP" wrote in message news:jrrb75pmqro0dogrul6ijt6pj8gr0se1f1@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 2 Aug 2009 12:02:30 -0400, "rc" wrote:
>
>> Is it possible to fax using the XP utility if you have dsl internet
>> connection?
>
>
> No.
>
> You can do one of three things:
>
> 1. Buy and install a fax modem and connect it to the dial-up telephone
> service. You can then fax over it.
>
> 2. Use internet-based fax service. Essentially that means you don't
> send the fax yourself, but give it to the internet service to send for
> you.
>
> 3. Buy an inexpensive stand-alone fax machine. This is my personal
> preference. I bought my machine several years ago for $20 US.
>
> --
> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
> Please Reply to the Newsgroup
 
"Ken Blake, MVP" wrote:

>On Sun, 2 Aug 2009 12:02:30 -0400, "rc" wrote:
>
>> Is it possible to fax using the XP utility if you have dsl internet
>> connection?
>
>
>No.
>
>You can do one of three things:
>
>1. Buy and install a fax modem and connect it to the dial-up telephone
>service. You can then fax over it.



If it's recent enough to handle DSL, it surely has a fax modem
installed, or am I missing something?
 
On 2 Aug, 22:23, Bennett Marco wrote:
> If it's recent enough to handle DSL, it surely has a fax modem
> installed, or am I missing something?

Yes you are certainly missing the fact that Ken Blake is a member of
the Pig Society and so his knowledge is limited to what he reads
here. In fact he is on record to say that he hasn't formatted or done
a clean re-install of Windows OS since days of Windows 3.0. Now a
person like that can't have sufficient experience to advice and inform
people on these NGs.
 
On 2 Aug, 17:02, "rc" wrote:
> Is it possible to fax using the XP utility if you have dsl internet
> connection?

Yes. DSL Internet runs via a telephone line and so provided you have
the modem cable and correct DSL modem or even a built in modem in your
system, you can use the fax facility in Windows XP. If you can make
phone calls using the same line than sure you can send faxes in the
same way.

You might need a doubler (cost £4.95 in UK) if you have an old dsl
modem.

Hope this helps.
 
DB

Are you saying that to send and receive fax one can temporarily disconnect the
filtered phone line going into my DSL modem and reconnect it directly to the
phone jack on the back of the computer...assuming Windows Microsoft Fax is
installed? Or does the DSL modem have to remain connected and by using a phone
line splitter the connection to the phone input on the computer back is made
with a separate wire from the splitter? Or can be done either way?

If a splitter is used and that extra wire is left in place is there any downside
to that arrangement like interfering with DSL performance?

Don

--------------------------------------------------------------

"db" wrote in message
news:eWaGJQ7EKHA.4316@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>
> most mother boards
> have a built in fax
> modem.
>
> there will be a
> phone jack on
> the backside of
> the computer.
>
> if you have one then
> plug in the dsl "filtered
> line" into your the
> motherboards phone
> jack and
>
> fax, fax away....!
>
>
> --
>
> db·´¯`·...¸>
> DatabaseBen, Retired Professional
> - Systems Analyst
> - Database Developer
> - Accountancy
> - Veteran of the Armed Forces
> - Microsoft Partner
> - @hotmail.com
> ~~~~~~~~~~"share the nirvana" - dbZen
>
>>
>>
>
> "rc" wrote in message news:OPX9jq4EKHA.1488@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> Is it possible to fax using the XP utility if you have dsl internet
>> connection?
>>
 
sometimes people get
confused with the word
modem.

but a dsl modem is
exclusively used to
transceiver the dsl signal.

however, a fax modem
simply uses the regular
telephone line to function,

no different than an answering
machine, caller id, fax machines
and regular telephones.

so yes, you likely have an
built in internal fax modem
in your computer

and you can simply plug in
a telephone line into a jack
in the back, like plugging
a telephone

if you have a telephone
splitter it will work too.

so you can use a splitter
to route the telephone
connection between a
phone and the internal
modem.

or just route the telephone
line directly to the modem.

there are numerous
configurations available.

afterwards, you can use
the windows fax service
to send and receive faxes.

to send faxes you should
find a "fax printer" in your
printers.

then from any program
your can print to the "fax
printer" and send it off
after you input a telephone
number.

or you can buy specialty
software and enhance your
fax modem with additional
faxing features and answering
machine capabilities.


--

db·´¯`·...¸>
DatabaseBen, Retired Professional
- Systems Analyst
- Database Developer
- Accountancy
- Veteran of the Armed Forces
- Microsoft Partner
- @hotmail.com
~~~~~~~~~~"share the nirvana" - dbZen

>
>

"Don McGlynn" wrote in message news:267c2$4a76170b$438ccef8$28797@ALLTEL.NET...
> DB
>
> Are you saying that to send and receive fax one can temporarily disconnect the filtered phone line going into my DSL modem and
> reconnect it directly to the phone jack on the back of the computer...assuming Windows Microsoft Fax is installed? Or does the
> DSL modem have to remain connected and by using a phone line splitter the connection to the phone input on the computer back is
> made with a separate wire from the splitter? Or can be done either way?
>
> If a splitter is used and that extra wire is left in place is there any downside to that arrangement like interfering with DSL
> performance?
>
> Don
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------
>
> "db" wrote in message news:eWaGJQ7EKHA.4316@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>
>> most mother boards
>> have a built in fax
>> modem.
>>
>> there will be a
>> phone jack on
>> the backside of
>> the computer.
>>
>> if you have one then
>> plug in the dsl "filtered
>> line" into your the
>> motherboards phone
>> jack and
>>
>> fax, fax away....!
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> db·´¯`·...¸>
>> DatabaseBen, Retired Professional
>> - Systems Analyst
>> - Database Developer
>> - Accountancy
>> - Veteran of the Armed Forces
>> - Microsoft Partner
>> - @hotmail.com
>> ~~~~~~~~~~"share the nirvana" - dbZen
>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> "rc" wrote in message news:OPX9jq4EKHA.1488@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>> Is it possible to fax using the XP utility if you have dsl internet connection?
>>>
>
>
 
db wrote:
> most mother boards
> have a built in fax
> modem.
>


Really? When did they start regressing to such old technology?
Built-in ethernet controllers, certainly, but a built-in fax-modem?
I've never seen one, except on some model laptops.


> there will be a
> phone jack on
> the backside of
> the computer.
>


Again, only if it's a laptop (in which case the port could also be on
either side, depending upon the model), or if the computer's owner had a
fax-modem added, either as a factory sold add-on, or after purchase.



--

Bruce Chambers

Help us help you:
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/555375

They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin

Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell

The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has
killed a great many philosophers.
~ Denis Diderot
 
there are plenty of
mother boards out
there that do have
internal modems
built in.

however, I don't recall
stating all mother boards
have an internal fax
modem.

and I did state to the
op to check the back
of the computer for
jacks.


> a built-in fax-modem? I've never seen one, except on some model laptops.

again and again
as I have condemned
your condescending
and pitiful arguments,


JUST BECAUSE YOU
HAVEN'T SEEN OR
READ ABOUT SOMETHING

DOES NOT MEAN IT
DON'T EXIST.


if you trying to defend
ken blake,

he doesn't need your
input.

with friends like yours
who needs enemies.

ken simply forgot that
there was an option 4.

to me it's no big deal.

he does the same to
me and it doesn't bother
me because he is
respectful.

--------------

on the other hand, you
may truly be a moron and
have "no" knowledge
of yesteryears technology
or you're being a smart
ass.

so which is it?

frankly, I'm not interested
and the questions above
are rhetorical.

before you troll upon me
again,

google what rhetorical
means.

--

db·´¯`·...¸>
DatabaseBen, Retired Professional
- Systems Analyst
- Database Developer
- Accountancy
- Veteran of the Armed Forces
- Microsoft Partner
- @hotmail.com
~~~~~~~~~~"share the nirvana" - dbZen

>
>

"Bruce Chambers" wrote in message news:uOLKmf8EKHA.4316@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> db wrote:
>> most mother boards
>> have a built in fax
>> modem.
>>
>
>
> Really? When did they start regressing to such old technology? Built-in ethernet controllers, certainly, but a built-in
> fax-modem? I've never seen one, except on some model laptops.
>
>
>> there will be a
>> phone jack on
>> the backside of
>> the computer.
>>
>
>
> Again, only if it's a laptop (in which case the port could also be on either side, depending upon the model), or if the computer's
> owner had a fax-modem added, either as a factory sold add-on, or after purchase.
>
>
>
> --
>
> Bruce Chambers
>
> Help us help you:
> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/555375
>
> They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin
>
> Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell
>
> The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has killed a great many philosophers.
> ~ Denis Diderot
 
Thank you DB.

Don

-----------------------------------------------------
"db" wrote in message
news:Op3$nY8EKHA.3556@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> sometimes people get
> confused with the word
> modem.
>
> but a dsl modem is
> exclusively used to
> transceiver the dsl signal.
>
> however, a fax modem
> simply uses the regular
> telephone line to function,
>
> no different than an answering
> machine, caller id, fax machines
> and regular telephones.
>
> so yes, you likely have an
> built in internal fax modem
> in your computer
>
> and you can simply plug in
> a telephone line into a jack
> in the back, like plugging
> a telephone
>
> if you have a telephone
> splitter it will work too.
>
> so you can use a splitter
> to route the telephone
> connection between a
> phone and the internal
> modem.
>
> or just route the telephone
> line directly to the modem.
>
> there are numerous
> configurations available.
>
> afterwards, you can use
> the windows fax service
> to send and receive faxes.
>
> to send faxes you should
> find a "fax printer" in your
> printers.
>
> then from any program
> your can print to the "fax
> printer" and send it off
> after you input a telephone
> number.
>
> or you can buy specialty
> software and enhance your
> fax modem with additional
> faxing features and answering
> machine capabilities.
>
>
> --
>
> db·´¯`·...¸>
> DatabaseBen, Retired Professional
> - Systems Analyst
> - Database Developer
> - Accountancy
> - Veteran of the Armed Forces
> - Microsoft Partner
> - @hotmail.com
> ~~~~~~~~~~"share the nirvana" - dbZen
>
>>
>>
>
> "Don McGlynn" wrote in message
> news:267c2$4a76170b$438ccef8$28797@ALLTEL.NET...
>> DB
>>
>> Are you saying that to send and receive fax one can temporarily disconnect
>> the filtered phone line going into my DSL modem and reconnect it directly to
>> the phone jack on the back of the computer...assuming Windows Microsoft Fax
>> is installed? Or does the DSL modem have to remain connected and by using a
>> phone line splitter the connection to the phone input on the computer back is
>> made with a separate wire from the splitter? Or can be done either way?
>>
>> If a splitter is used and that extra wire is left in place is there any
>> downside to that arrangement like interfering with DSL performance?
>>
>> Don
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> "db" wrote in message
>> news:eWaGJQ7EKHA.4316@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>
>>> most mother boards
>>> have a built in fax
>>> modem.
>>>
>>> there will be a
>>> phone jack on
>>> the backside of
>>> the computer.
>>>
>>> if you have one then
>>> plug in the dsl "filtered
>>> line" into your the
>>> motherboards phone
>>> jack and
>>>
>>> fax, fax away....!
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> db·´¯`·...¸>
>>> DatabaseBen, Retired Professional
>>> - Systems Analyst
>>> - Database Developer
>>> - Accountancy
>>> - Veteran of the Armed Forces
>>> - Microsoft Partner
>>> - @hotmail.com
>>> ~~~~~~~~~~"share the nirvana" - dbZen
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> "rc" wrote in message
>>> news:OPX9jq4EKHA.1488@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>> Is it possible to fax using the XP utility if you have dsl internet
>>>> connection?
>>>>
>>
>>
 
Don McGlynn wrote:
> DB
>
> Are you saying that to send and receive fax one can temporarily disconnect the
> filtered phone line going into my DSL modem and reconnect it directly to the
> phone jack on the back of the computer...assuming Windows Microsoft Fax is
> installed? Or does the DSL modem have to remain connected and by using a phone
> line splitter the connection to the phone input on the computer back is made
> with a separate wire from the splitter? Or can be done either way?
>
> If a splitter is used and that extra wire is left in place is there any downside
> to that arrangement like interfering with DSL performance?
>
> Don

The DSL modem is an unfiltered line. You filter all the other lines so
the digital isn't compromised by modulated signals. Notice that DB
said, in part: "plug in the dsl "filtered line" into the motherboard
phone jack".

Whether the DSL modem is connected or not is immaterial; your phone
would work if you disconnected the DSL modem, and the phone modem, if
filtered, should work properly too.

If you use a splitter on the DSL (unfiltered) line, you should filter
the side going to the phone modem.

> "db" wrote in message
> news:eWaGJQ7EKHA.4316@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> most mother boards
>> have a built in fax
>> modem.
>>
>> there will be a
>> phone jack on
>> the backside of
>> the computer.
>>
>> if you have one then
>> plug in the dsl "filtered
>> line" into your the
>> motherboards phone
>> jack and
>>
>> fax, fax away....!
>>

>>
>> db·´¯`·...¸>
>> DatabaseBen, Retired Professional
>> - Systems Analyst
>> - Database Developer
>> - Accountancy
>> - Veteran of the Armed Forces
>> - Microsoft Partner
>> - @hotmail.com
>> ~~~~~~~~~~"share the nirvana" - dbZen
>>
>>>
>> "rc" wrote in message news:OPX9jq4EKHA.1488@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>> Is it possible to fax using the XP utility if you have dsl internet
>>> connection?


--
Joe =o)
 
The only caviat is that some DSL/phone providers (US) do not support FAX.
Seems that "de-regulation" allows them to do this, or charge extra if they
so choose.
AT&T several years ago pressured homeowners in some areas to convert from
"wireline" (hard copper) to "carrier" on the same pair they were using. A
conventional modem barely worked on this type of connection, forcing many to
opt for DSL (From the same carrier, naturally!)

"ANONYMOUS" wrote in message
news:37028c7e-a67b-45fd-89c7-cd0c81dd8a57@c34g2000yqi.googlegroups.com...
On 2 Aug, 17:02, "rc" wrote:
> Is it possible to fax using the XP utility if you have dsl internet
> connection?

Yes. DSL Internet runs via a telephone line and so provided you have
the modem cable and correct DSL modem or even a built in modem in your
system, you can use the fax facility in Windows XP. If you can make
phone calls using the same line than sure you can send faxes in the
same way.

You might need a doubler (cost £4.95 in UK) if you have an old dsl
modem.

Hope this helps.
 
OK...thanks to all who replied. Each one gave me a piece of the puzzle to
understand how faxing works.

Don
---------------------------------------------------------------------


"Chuck" wrote in message
news:OfRGC6%23EKHA.1252@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> The only caviat is that some DSL/phone providers (US) do not support FAX.
> Seems that "de-regulation" allows them to do this, or charge extra if they so
> choose.
> AT&T several years ago pressured homeowners in some areas to convert from
> "wireline" (hard copper) to "carrier" on the same pair they were using. A
> conventional modem barely worked on this type of connection, forcing many to
> opt for DSL (From the same carrier, naturally!)
>
> "ANONYMOUS" wrote in message
> news:37028c7e-a67b-45fd-89c7-cd0c81dd8a57@c34g2000yqi.googlegroups.com...
> On 2 Aug, 17:02, "rc" wrote:
>> Is it possible to fax using the XP utility if you have dsl internet
>> connection?
>
> Yes. DSL Internet runs via a telephone line and so provided you have
> the modem cable and correct DSL modem or even a built in modem in your
> system, you can use the fax facility in Windows XP. If you can make
> phone calls using the same line than sure you can send faxes in the
> same way.
>
> You might need a doubler (cost £4.95 in UK) if you have an old dsl
> modem.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
>
 
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